Monday, March 01, 2010

LAPC Day Three

I went out on the stone bubble of the LAPC, 73rd paying 72. I don't regret any decisions I made today including the final one.

I have really been through the full spectrum the last eight days, and it will be nice to have a day off tomorrow. I'm not sure what's next but I will certainly be playing a ton this spring.

10 Comments:

Blogger Unknown said...

Brutal man. I think it is the right play. At first, I thought I may smooth (considering my financial status). However, after more thought, I can't help but think this is the correct play so I'm pretty sure I would do the same. Plus, I like motioning my hands toward the felt while saying "I'm all-in". Anyways, brutal man.

7:32 AM  
Blogger Hammer Player a.k.a Hoyazo said...

Tough break man. But glad to hear your perspective is still strong, and I especially like not having to read you crying about not just folding to a small cash.

Can't wait to see what comes next.

10:37 AM  
Blogger 81Trucolors said...

I don't doubt you made the right move but could you explain why a fold here isn't the correct play?

I understand it's weak but $10k is $10k...

11:24 AM  
Blogger GnightMoon said...

$18.5k is $18.5k too...

There is 36k in chips lying out there and it's pretty unlikely I'm going to get called. I'm not sure if the first guy would call queens or jacks or ace-king; pretty sure he would fold anything worse than that. There was no reason to believe I would have anything worse than queens or ace-king.

The difference between 109k in my stack and 145k is pretty significant. Not to mention I could actually win the pot if I do get called. The fact I was suited makes it an easier push.

12:51 PM  
Blogger GnightMoon said...

Warrants mentioning the payout structure was very flat with no big money until the final table. Definitely value in just getting to the money.

12:52 PM  
Blogger Bag said...

Easy shove imo.

1:25 PM  
Blogger Seth said...

I hate to overstate the obvious here, but, this is a high five the dealer situation. For those readers who aren't familiar with high five the dealer situations, they are situations in which you are short to medium stacked and presented with a un-foldable hand (ak in this instance given the action) and given an ideal situation to get the whole pile into the middle. After looking at your cards, stand up from the table (or if you're in the 1 or 9 seat, turn slightly) slap the dealer high five, then exclaim " I'm arrrrrrrrrrrrrr in!" (asian accent optional)

3:42 PM  
Blogger Jeremiah said...

The fact that you are moving in makes it a lot better than if you had to call off.

However, if called, the chance that some of your outs are taken up by the fact that there are three other people who like their hands enough doesn't help.

But the deciding factor is actually the $19,000 bubble. That's a big bubble for a guy who's going to be grinding MTTs all year long. If you had a 3 million dollar bankroll and didn't really care, then maybe the point is moot.

However, the reality is doubling up doesn't really help you that much.

In fact, it doesn't even mean you'll necessarily make it to the next jump in payouts. People say they are "going for the win" in these spots but you are still soooo far away from that.

I had a really long conversation with Allen Cunningham about this exact situation a couple years ago. His opinion was that folding was better than shoving and calling was perfectly acceptable. I'll see if I can find the transcript from the interview.

3:54 PM  
Blogger Bored in St. George said...

Where is the hand? I guess a raise, two callers, and a shove by the nit on AK? Whad the other guy have?

12:45 PM  
Blogger GnightMoon said...

1500-3000-400. Guy with about 270k raises to 9k, Shawn Buchanan calls, Dan "Wretchy" Martin calls, I shove 109k in the SB with AKs, first guy instashoves AA.

2:18 PM  

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